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Posted 04/15/201312:06 AM

HELP Please!!

I have an early Vanguard 30-06 that I purchased in about 1975. Never been fired. (Really!!)
Just  upgraded the bolt per the recent  Weatherby safety recall.  Before sending the bolt back to the factory for the upgrade,  I noticed that with bolt forward and locked, the the safety was impossible to move in either direction and stayed stuck in the forward (fire) position, but couldn't be dry fired.  When I installed the upgraded bolt the situation didn't change.  Also still can't pull the trigger for a dry fire. Is this normal for a Vanguard?  Do I need to remove the trigger to see if something is stuck?  Is the safety only supposed to work when the weapon has a round in the chamber?  (sure seems odd but maybe this is how the rifle was designed).

Any help would be greatly appreciated !

mforrest

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Posted 04/15/201307:03 AM

Welcome to the Nation! 

Let me ask you; has this rifle been sitting in your safe without being dry fired since 1975?  If this is the case, I think that it could be that it might have dry out grease or no oil and it might be gunk out.  I wouldn't take the trigger appart, but I would scrub it real good, and give the rifle a good cleaning and lube.  Then I would try to dry fire again. 

Reason I say that about the grease/oil, is because I went overseas for 4 years.  When I came back, my Remington 700 had been sitting in my parents warehouse for over 4 years.  When I tried to fire it, it wouldn't fire;  what ever oil it had was all dry and gunk out really good.   After a good cleaning and a little scrubbing, it worked fine. 

Give it a shot, and if it doesn't work, I would call Weatherby and ask them.

Good luck.
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Posted 04/15/201306:29 PM

Thanks for the suggestion.  Do you recall whether the safety on your R 700 was frozen?

Yes, it has been sitting idle for all this time. I field stripped the bolt last night, and it was well lubed inside...probably by the Weatherby repair people.  What specific parts of the Vanguard do you suggest cleaning? There isn't too much that moves other than the bolt.
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Posted 04/15/201306:44 PM

You're going to want to remove that barreled action from the stock and clean the trigger mechanism, and then re-oil it with some non-gumming, non-freezing oil.  If you don't know how to remove the stock, consult the owners manual (either the one that came with it, or the one at Weatherby.com).  I suspect your trigger is gunked beyond belief, and perhaps the safety lever is rusted or some such.I believe this is a practical world, and in it I can count only on what I can earn.  Therefore I believe in work, hard work. - The Auburn Creed
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Posted 04/18/201306:53 PM

Thanks.  Stripped it and cleaned everything with solvent than the oiled it up again, even though it looked clean to begin with.  No luck after cleaning though as the safety is still dead stuck.  I didn't take the trigger mechanism  apart though....should I try that?
I'm beginning to think that the front and rear trigger pull and sear adjustment screws have been monkeyed with.  If these are improperly adjusted, could that cause the safety and trigger to freeze up?
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Posted 04/18/201310:56 PM

Yes, it can.  I'd advise having the nice folks at Weatherby adjust that trigger for you.  For a few dollars shipping, they'll likely square it away better than you can imagine.I believe this is a practical world, and in it I can count only on what I can earn.  Therefore I believe in work, hard work. - The Auburn Creed
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Posted 05/08/201306:53 PM

^^^^ wut he sed ^^^^^

Unless your mechanically inclined ... there are several articles on the interweb regarding adjusting a factory Howa/Vanguard trigger.  Be one with the google and give it a whirl.  But unless you know what you're doing .... DO NOT take the trigger apart.

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